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speed100
10-13-2007, 04:12 PM
If you are running ringtone campaign on Yahoo,make sure to "clean" it today.Yahoo put the top 10 ringtones on the front page for a while and there was a lot of impressions with no clicks.My CTR dropped to 0.45%:mad:

theone
10-13-2007, 04:48 PM
holy shit i was wondering what the hell was wrong my impressions blew upppppp!!! my sales were thru the roof. I thought something was wrong.

speed100
10-13-2007, 09:34 PM
holy shit i was wondering what the hell was wrong my impressions blew upppppp!!! my sales were thru the roof. I thought something was wrong.

How many impressions and clicks do you get on average?Whats your CTR?

solution2u
10-13-2007, 10:19 PM
Same thing happened here. My impressions also very high. For mosquito ringtones alone, there are 50k impression for today. I have paused the adgroup temporarily.

Narcsis
10-13-2007, 10:51 PM
IDK WTF happened here. I also had an insane day. Tons of impressions and my sales were an all time high.

Narcsis
10-13-2007, 10:55 PM
If you are running ringtone campaign on Yahoo,make sure to "clean" it today.Yahoo put the top 10 ringtones on the front page for a while and there was a lot of impressions with no clicks.My CTR dropped to 0.45%:mad:

I dont quite get what you mean by "clean" and that they put the top 10 ringtones on the front page.

theduke56789
10-14-2007, 11:15 AM
weirdess thing i've seen... couple keywords were through the roof

speed100
10-14-2007, 02:30 PM
I dont quite get what you mean by "clean" and that they put the top 10 ringtones on the front page.

Yahoo post the top ten ringtones on their page Yahoo.com:mosquito,24,kill bill whistle....So yesterday, everybody who saw this post was searching to hear this ringtones,that's why you probably have a lot of impressions but lower CTR than usual.

speed100
10-14-2007, 02:34 PM
Which offer converts good? I'm running FlyCell. They have very nice landing page,but it converts 1 in 50.

mystickcal
10-14-2007, 08:52 PM
Hmm okay I'm having the a diff problem. I'm receiving the same amount of impressions and clicks, however no leads! lol. So not sure if its has to do something with that as well or what, but today was so crappy for me...I mean sooo crappy. I think I lost about 400-600 bucks today...Oh well...

Narcsis
10-14-2007, 10:28 PM
Hmm okay I'm having the a diff problem. I'm receiving the same amount of impressions and clicks, however no leads! lol. So not sure if its has to do something with that as well or what, but today was so crappy for me...I mean sooo crappy. I think I lost about 400-600 bucks today...Oh well...

Today wasnt a very good day for me either. Just ok.

But yesterday I had a 600% increase in clicks over my average and leads were up by 625%. Good times. :)

mystickcal
10-14-2007, 11:07 PM
Today wasnt a very good day for me either. Just ok.

But yesterday I had a 600% increase in clicks over my average and leads were up by 625%. Good times. :)

yeah i had a great day yesterday. Terrific in fact, but I guess you win some and lose some :D Thats how affiliate marketing works.

santokki
10-16-2007, 10:02 AM
I think I lost about 400-600 bucks today...Oh well...

:eek: I love how you just shrug off a loss like that. Can't wait til the day where losing 500 bucks in one day is no biggie, lol.

mystickcal
10-16-2007, 11:08 PM
:eek: I love how you just shrug off a loss like that. Can't wait til the day where losing 500 bucks in one day is no biggie, lol.

haha, I've lost alot more than that in my years. It isn't that I don't think 500 bucks isn't alot of money, its just I know that in affiliate marketing you have days or sometimes even weeks where a campaign dies and loses money and you think oh no, but then all of a sudden here it comes one day and its stronger than ever! I personally don't go by day by day results, I go my monthly results personally as then I get a bigger picture on niches :D Plus I don't pull my hair out as much as if I would go day by day lol.

projectw3
10-18-2007, 12:47 AM
I just started promoting flycell from copeac.
can i just use the links from the campaign creatives?

so far haven't been able to convert after 20 clicks or so.
just the first day,...so have to wait for awhile i guess.

anyone out there promoting flycell care to share your conversions?


Which offer converts good? I'm running FlyCell. They have very nice landing page,but it converts 1 in 50.

speed100
10-18-2007, 01:37 AM
I just started promoting flycell from copeac.
can i just use the links from the campaign creatives?

so far haven't been able to convert after 20 clicks or so.
just the first day,...so have to wait for awhile i guess.

anyone out there promoting flycell care to share your conversions?

I guess for you it's going to be harder.I'm getting $17.25 for FlyCell.I think that copeac pays $16.

projectw3
10-18-2007, 04:26 AM
You still getting 1 in 50 conversions?


I guess for you it's going to be harder.I'm getting $17.25 for FlyCell.I think that copeac pays $16.

theone
10-18-2007, 07:35 AM
I just started promoting flycell from copeac.
can i just use the links from the campaign creatives?

so far haven't been able to convert after 20 clicks or so.
just the first day,...so have to wait for awhile i guess.

anyone out there promoting flycell care to share your conversions?

I promote flycell my epc is usually over 1.00 it definitely converts.

speed100
10-20-2007, 03:17 PM
I changed FlyCell.I got new offer from my AM.I'm getting $17.50 and so far it converts 1:5.What a difference with FlyCell,which was converting 1:50.

theone
10-20-2007, 03:39 PM
I changed FlyCell.I got new offer from my AM.I'm getting $17.50 and so far it converts 1:5.What a difference with FlyCell,which was converting 1:50.

is that rock your ringtones?

nuestra
10-20-2007, 03:50 PM
I changed FlyCell.I got new offer from my AM.I'm getting $17.50 and so far it converts 1:5.What a difference with FlyCell,which was converting 1:50.

Sorry me if i misunderstood :
So you changed Flycell to another offer but which offer? If possible can you let us know?

speed100
10-20-2007, 05:03 PM
i change to GroovinTones

slbusiness
10-20-2007, 08:33 PM
Hmm okay I'm having the a diff problem. I'm receiving the same amount of impressions and clicks, however no leads! lol. So not sure if its has to do something with that as well or what, but today was so crappy for me...I mean sooo crappy. I think I lost about 400-600 bucks today...Oh well...

I also got tons of clicks but only 3 leads. Lost money here too, but nothing near that amount. Whats funny is the exactly one week before i had $412 in Revenue for the day (I got 9 leads within one hour too). It was weird.

Neusha G.
10-21-2007, 05:29 PM
With FlyCell im getting 8.00+ EPC daily.

theone
10-21-2007, 06:14 PM
With FlyCell im getting 8.00+ EPC daily.

how many sales are you getting a day?

Neusha G.
10-22-2007, 02:24 PM
how many sales are you getting a day?

about 4 haha:D

Rajuthan
10-22-2007, 09:31 PM
about 4 haha:D

Where are you promoting?

Neusha G.
10-22-2007, 10:40 PM
Where are you promoting?
Microsoft Adcenter. I paused my Yahoo campaigns.

Neusha G.
10-23-2007, 09:26 AM
i change to GroovinTones

What Affiliate company are you going through for Groovin Tones?

theone
10-23-2007, 11:28 AM
is anyone having any problems with flycell im not getting conversions?

Neusha G.
10-23-2007, 03:42 PM
is anyone having any problems with flycell im not getting conversions?Its odd, I haven't gotten any today either.

speed100
10-23-2007, 07:47 PM
Thats why i changed FlyCell,i have better conversions with Groovin tones. I use this network :) my aff.link (http://aff.primaryads.com/up.asp?id=7976). They give $15.00 for Groovin Tones,but ask your manager for increase. My AM (Stephanie) give me $17.50

Neusha G.
10-23-2007, 08:14 PM
Thats why i changed FlyCell,i have better conversions with Groovin tones. I use this network :) my aff.link (http://aff.primaryads.com/up.asp?id=7976). They give $15.00 for Groovin Tones,but ask your manager for increase. My AM (Stephanie) give me $17.50

You might want to change your landing pages for Groovin Tones for now, cuz their landing pages are down!!!!

slbusiness
10-23-2007, 08:48 PM
I don't know about most of you guys, but my ringtones have dropped big time the past week, even with all the tuning etc. Is anyone else experiencing the same thing: same amount of targeted clicks but very low conversions?

mystickcal
10-23-2007, 10:06 PM
I don't know about most of you guys, but my ringtones have dropped big time the past week, even with all the tuning etc. Is anyone else experiencing the same thing: same amount of targeted clicks but very low conversions?

Ringtones are on a slow decline, they have been for about a year now. Just look at google trends and ringtones.

slbusiness
10-25-2007, 05:20 PM
Yeah but, I mean i usually get like <200 clicks a day for ringtones (all targeted keywords) and my leads have dropped to like 6-9 per day. Dunno if thats normal.

Neusha G.
10-30-2007, 05:11 PM
Ya Im doing about 10 lead per day now, after I restarted my campaigns... So where is a good payout these days for ringtones?

speed100
10-31-2007, 07:16 PM
Ya Im doing about 10 lead per day now, after I restarted my campaigns... So where is a good payout these days for ringtones?

I think that $17.50 is the highest. If somebody is getting more,please share:)

Neusha G.
11-03-2007, 12:07 PM
I think that $17.50 is the highest. If somebody is getting more,please share:)

Can I ask you what landing page are you using for the Groovin Tones? Also, are you getting 17.50 for this offer: GroovinTones-AT&T/Cingular/T-mobile/Verizon/Sprint ?

speed100
11-03-2007, 01:42 PM
Can I ask you what landing page are you using for the Groovin Tones? Also, are you getting 17.50 for this offer: GroovinTones-AT&T/Cingular/T-mobile/Verizon/Sprint ?

I was using:
15961: Search Link
Cell Phone with Speaker

Now I'm using:
15984: Search Link
Girl with Headphones

They convert the same 1:9,1:10 for the main carriers ($17.50 offer)
and they convert 1:18,1:20 for the other carriers ($10.00 offer)

Are you getting less than $17.50?

Neusha G.
11-05-2007, 11:28 PM
I was using:
15961: Search Link
Cell Phone with Speaker

Now I'm using:
15984: Search Link
Girl with Headphones

They convert the same 1:9,1:10 for the main carriers ($17.50 offer)
and they convert 1:18,1:20 for the other carriers ($10.00 offer)

Are you getting less than $17.50?

Ya, I'm getting 17.00 from her. I dunno if I should ask for more?

speed100
11-05-2007, 11:29 PM
Ya, I'm getting 17.00 from her. I dunno if I should ask for more?

I think that $17.50 is the most you can get,but you can ask for more if you want,thats why your AM is there for you.:)

Neusha G.
11-06-2007, 06:34 PM
I think that $17.50 is the most you can get,but you can ask for more if you want,thats why your AM is there for you.:)

I'll ask later, im not putting in more than 15+ leads a day anyways...:cool:

speed100
11-06-2007, 08:12 PM
I'll ask later, im not putting in more than 15+ leads a day anyways...:cool:

Well,you make more than $1000/week,right?They don't care how much you spend,they only see how much you make and 1k/week is not bad.Don't be shy for asking more.Your AM is working for you,it's not the other way around.

mystickcal
11-07-2007, 08:28 AM
Well,you make more than $1000/week,right?They don't care how much you spend,they only see how much you make and 1k/week is not bad.Don't be shy for asking more.Your AM is working for you,it's not the other way around.

That doesn't really matter with PrimaryAds, since they are a smaller company they tend ot give higher payouts if you simply ask. I have had them call me and offer me higher payouts and they don't even have an idea of the volume I do. I mean they could probably guess I do enough from seeing me on diff forums and stuff, but they never actually knew... So from my experience simply ask PrimaryAds, best if you ask before you even start the campaign :D

theone
11-20-2007, 02:32 AM
Does anyone know how the new Flycell converts with the "google complient" check now?

AgentPaul001
11-20-2007, 06:04 PM
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mulmoney
11-20-2007, 06:14 PM
its converting at 1/25 , 4% for me :( , every offer converts around there as well

AgentPaul001
11-20-2007, 11:15 PM
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speed100
11-20-2007, 11:38 PM
Okay I'm not as worried then, its just converting far lower then anything I've ever run. Hopefully I can get enough traffic eventually to get a higher payout or try a different offer ;)

What CTR are most of you guys running at? I'm at a horrible %.25 right now, and will likely hit %.50 with some work, but I can't imagine getting like much higher then 1% with Ringtones, or are any of you around there?

Cheers :)

.25% is not OK,even .50% is not OK. You should work on this more.

mulmoney
11-21-2007, 06:13 AM
when i was bidding 1.10 my overall CTR was 1.6% , but i was losing tons of money so i lowered to .30 cents bids, and today my CTR is .20% and i only got 2 clicks.....

edit: my ctr is so low today because i only got 1,000 impressions for .30 cent bids but free motorola ringtones got 800 of those impressions at position 3 but no clicks. so i deleted it and ill see if it goes up

Neusha G.
11-27-2007, 07:03 PM
So how is everyone doing right now with ringtones?

AgentPaul001
11-27-2007, 07:11 PM
Same old, same old. Dada converts at around 5% as well, but pays better then FlyCell. Still just breaking even, but I'm just running this campaign on the backburner while I worked on other Niches, figure the stats are worth something when I really push into this eventually.

mystickcal
11-27-2007, 08:28 PM
I still having good luck with Dada for my main carriers using the special azoogle offers for dada premium, although I'm not having much luck with the secondary carriers, which offers are most of you using for second carriers and with what network and what type of conversions are you seeing with it? For example 1/25 convert, etc. Just wondering as it may just be ringtones slowly dying over time, but just wondering if anyone else is having alot of problems with secondary carriers as me, I'm seeing about 1/50 convert for secondary with the offer I'm using now!!!

speed100
11-27-2007, 11:55 PM
I still having good luck with Dada for my main carriers using the special azoogle offers for dada premium, although I'm not having much luck with the secondary carriers, which offers are most of you using for second carriers and with what network and what type of conversions are you seeing with it? For example 1/25 convert, etc. Just wondering as it may just be ringtones slowly dying over time, but just wondering if anyone else is having alot of problems with secondary carriers as me, I'm seeing about 1/50 convert for secondary with the offer I'm using now!!!

I tried Dada for couple of days,but Groovin is still converting better for me.1/10-12-primary and 1/30-32-secondary.I don't know why for some, Dada is converting better and for some,don't.Maybe its the landing page or the different keywords.

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff95/speed1000/GrT.jpg

mystickcal
11-29-2007, 10:23 AM
yeah I tried groovin tones and didn't have much luck with them, but for example just to show you what I'm talking about here is yesterdays stats and you can see dada premium and dada normal.

speed100
11-29-2007, 01:55 PM
yeah I tried groovin tones and didn't have much luck with them, but for example just to show you what I'm talking about here is yesterdays stats and you can see dada premium and dada normal.

1/63,i think is very bad.Are you sure that you don't have UK,canada,...in your keywords?:) Try switching your secondary with GrToons,or something else. I put sprint,verizon,att,tmobile with Groovin primary,than,nextel,alltel,boost,dobson and cellularone with Groovin secondary and "other carriers" with Dada.

mystickcal
11-29-2007, 03:16 PM
1/63,i think is very bad.Are you sure that you don't have UK,canada,...in your keywords?:) Try switching your secondary with GrToons,or something else. I put sprint,verizon,att,tmobile with Groovin primary,than,nextel,alltel,boost,dobson and cellularone with Groovin secondary and "other carriers" with Dada.

Haha, yeah I'm sure I don't have canada and uk on :D I think I have a little experience under my belt. I'm actually trying a new offer today one of my AM's told me about so I'll report oh what kind of ecpc I see with it once I have the data available.

speed100
11-29-2007, 06:36 PM
Haha, yeah I'm sure I don't have canada and uk on :D I think I have a little experience under my belt. I'm actually trying a new offer today one of my AM's told me about so I'll report oh what kind of ecpc I see with it once I have the data available.

I was just making sure :D
Thanks to your experience,I am where I am now:)
Thank You.

Narcsis
12-02-2007, 10:57 PM
My secondary carriers which I use dada for, is converting 1/150 this month.

WTF is going on.

mystickcal
12-02-2007, 11:56 PM
My secondary carriers which I use dada for, is converting 1/150 this month.

WTF is going on.

Yeah I switched my secondary to thumbplay and seeing better conversions now. Nothing great but better than dada.

Narcsis
12-03-2007, 12:10 AM
What offer is that?

I thought Thumbplay only did primary carriers like Top 4 (4497), Top 3 (4577).

I find Thumbplay converts the best for my campaign so I'd love to use them for secondary as well.

mystickcal
12-03-2007, 11:50 AM
I'm sorry its not thumbplay its rockinringer offer 3375. My bad :D


What offer is that?

I thought Thumbplay only did primary carriers like Top 4 (4497), Top 3 (4577).

I find Thumbplay converts the best for my campaign so I'd love to use them for secondary as well.

slbusiness
12-04-2007, 08:24 AM
The best one for the "others" i have noticed is shady lizard on hydra. though they dropped the payout to $9.

its so weird though, some days my ringtones epc for my main carriers (with dada premiuum) will be like 2+ and other days around .70.